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i mean they are all a bit different even some contradict eachother i think plenty of them do actually but i see your point since people can have contradicting opinions

Nono like I totally get that it feels that way but even with DID that's the same afaik

We do take advantage of the little separation plurality provides. I can deal with things that are triggering for Gray slightly more easily and vice versa.

this too

11:29 AM

they have diffrnt limits

11:30 AM

they may not be completely separate from eachother hell probably not but just that i see them that way..

11:30 AM

that is useful to me

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they may not be completely separate from eachother hell probably not but just that i see them that way..

Yeah, with the DID discussion i just meant that people will say alters are 'real' and tulpas are not. But like, if they subjectively have a sense of identity how can you really prove any of it? Idk it's a mess

yeah its a weird argument i wont lie

How can you prove alters are 'really seperate?' If anything the clinical perspective is that they aren't

a doctor does not get to control my life or my truth... im not anti psych but i do believe in people having control of their identity in some forms

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11:33 AM

just a while ago being homosexual was considered an illness

Nono, ofc, but if you're arguing from the perspective that it's only real if it's trauma based that's illogical

11:34 AM

Sorry i am very much in the camp of just believing what people's experiences are haha

I created for two reasons:

Escapisim via wonderlanding
Feeling I need to fix myself I didn't hatch the idea "my headmate can do this for me!". I really don't like the idea of my headmates dealing with my problems, but more recently they would pressure me to let them step in because I struggle to do stuff on my own. I didn't want to cope this way, but I ultimately do

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anise

Sorry i am very much in the camp of just believing what people's experiences are haha

ik dont worry not assuming anything

11:35 AM

im trying to state just why its weird when people say only trauma based stuff is acceptable

11:35 AM

i been around some and many of them are.. uncomfortably into glorifying medical documentation and whatnot

11:36 AM

i read the haunted self too. its not that special

11:36 AM

i can kindof appreciate it in the context of us not having anything prior to it, but yeah

Cherrypickers -_-

11:37 AM

Hating doctors unless they support your argument

11:37 AM

It's frustrating

they will defend those people with their life who arent even alive like im sorry but i dont think pierre janet cares if i believe him or not anymore

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Hating doctors unless they support your argument

Right? lmao

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Hating doctors unless they support your argument

ITS SO WEIRD bc they take what they say as law

Structural dissociation is literal gospel, and believe DOCTORS ALWAYS

11:38 AM

No! DID is not controversial, I do not see it

11:39 AM

I feel bad because a lot of these people are really suffering and whatnot I just never felt comfortable being in these spaces and nodding along

When you're traumatized to the point you feel you can't trust anyone, it's not exactly going to make you a logically sound debater

11:41 AM

Sysmeds that I come across tend to be very fragile people

i could also go on about how modern discourse on social media is incredibly emotionally charged

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Sysmeds that I come across tend to be very fragile people

yeah me too

11:41 AM

many people dont know how to see their feelings and then see the facts..

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When you're traumatized to the point you feel you can't trust anyone, it's not exactly going to make you a logically sound debater

Yeah, definitely

11:42 AM

Although I think this is a larger problem with some mental health spaces, offering a solution that's actually somewhat predatory

11:43 AM

Although that's miles off topic so ye

The couple times we joined autism spaces it gave us weird vibes. But I don’t know how it compares to plural spaces

Tbh that's probably an effect of people who learn to deal with issues in a more sustainable way simply move on

Dream (my headmate) needs to sleep, but I enjoyed the chat!

It's the classic trans space thingy

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Dream (my headmate) needs to sleep, but I enjoyed the chat!

Night! Was lovely talking

You as well!

anise

Although I think this is a larger problem with some mental health spaces, offering a solution that's actually somewhat predatory

eck yeah

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Dream (my headmate) needs to sleep, but I enjoyed the chat!

cya later

11:48 AM

so jade what brings you here

11:49 AM

interested in making a tulpa or just wanted to talk about them in a more open space? or maybe you have one idk

I joined this space because someone I knew for a while had a tulpa and I was interested in the intersection between tulpas and hypnosis, but that was months ago

11:51 AM

I find the idea really fascinating, I considered and even started making one for a bit but decided it wasn't for me

11:51 AM

...and I'm enough of a psych nerd to want to keep talking about this stuff haha

oh gotcha

11:52 AM

tbh i think it has to do with building a narrative and thats probably why alot of people get stuck

11:52 AM

idk how to put it into words tho

11:52 AM

also again im probably a terrible person to debate about it bc i do not get stuck like that vshdvshdv

11:54 AM

i used too though

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tbh i think it has to do with building a narrative and thats probably why alot of people get stuck

I mean I got to a point where I was like.. if I am going to get any results im going to need to believe in this fully, which felt counterproductive to my life so I stopped

yeah i get it some people have a hard time with that part

11:54 AM

i think taking it as truth is also somthing that causes people to struggle. it can cause many other types of systems to struggle too ive observed it

it opens lots of doors on how you can view your own identity for sure

Yeah, it's definitely a complicated process

11:56 AM

I think it's so cool

me too heh

i dont think its as magical as its made out to be, but that might be because im used to it now

i think i get it

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i dont think its as magical as its made out to be, but that might be because im used to it now

I think that's probably the case tbh

11:59 AM

Even stuff like 'ooh what does switching feel like' is fascinating to me and it's probably pretty mundane to anyone used to it

i think tulpamancy is twisting regular experiences into something new and i dont mean it in a negative way, in singlet terms i'd describe switching as turning into another person suddenly, like your mood and thought patterns change

i find it really easy and regular in most cases

also happens alot without me knowing sometimes

and body language too

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i think tulpamancy is twisting regular experiences into something new and i dont mean it in a negative way, in singlet terms i'd describe switching as turning into another person suddenly, like your mood and thought patterns change

So like it's kinda fake but also not?

yesn't

12:01 PM

lol

haha

i mean that is the description to trick yourself into it

if you really think about who you are, you are essentially just the way you think, the history/story of yourself and how you react to things

12:02 PM

if you can change all of those and think that it's someone else, thats tulpamancy

12:02 PM

and it starts coming so naturally and out of nowhere it feels like you're not alone

That's so wild haha

good description

thats why i think it opens lots of interesting questions like who you really are, if your thoughts just come out of nowhere

Idk why this is so crazy, I've known about tulpas for ages now but wow it really is wild

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thats why i think it opens lots of interesting questions like who you really are, if your thoughts just come out of nowhere

Yeah!

12:04 PM

I mean there's already all the stuff about unconscious processes, I think there's even been studies where people's actions show up in the brain before the intention

i think the only true self there is is the consciousness and your perception of things happening, everything else is not ""you""

i find it kindof bizzare that i can perceive having so much control or being able to choose these things but it really does feel that way

but thats only how i see it

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i think the only true self there is is the consciousness and your perception of things happening, everything else is not ""you""

So like your identity is a narrative? kinda?

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i find it kindof bizzare that i can perceive having so much control or being able to choose these things but it really does feel that way

How does it feel to you?

exactly

12:06 PM

its like a tv show you're stuck watching lol

I kinda get that, although I guess there's limits where it runs up against deeply rooted stuff like extraversion and like, autism or w/e

that i can just choose who to be and choose what to do and what traits i have even if i am very dissociated i can just rebuild myself..

But even within that range of freedom it's crazy flexible

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that i can just choose who to be and choose what to do and what traits i have even if i am very dissociated i can just rebuild myself..

Wow

12:07 PM

That is crazy

12:07 PM

Sorry I'm just repeating myself but i really mean it lmfao

its ok xD

12:08 PM

although its true i dissociate less and less now maybe this is my perception of the problem being less present

12:08 PM

but i never resented not having a sense of self or not having a stable one

That's so interesting

12:09 PM

So like the compartmentalisation of tulpas helps w/ that?