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i mean they are all a bit different even some contradict eachother i think plenty of them do actually but i see your point since people can have contradicting opinions
Nono like I totally get that it feels that way but even with DID that's the same afaik
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A long kiss goodnight 8/10/2023 11:29 AM
We do take advantage of the little separation plurality provides. I can deal with things that are triggering for Gray slightly more easily and vice versa.
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this too
11:29 AM
they have diffrnt limits
11:30 AM
they may not be completely separate from eachother hell probably not but just that i see them that way..
11:30 AM
that is useful to me
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they may not be completely separate from eachother hell probably not but just that i see them that way..
Yeah, with the DID discussion i just meant that people will say alters are 'real' and tulpas are not. But like, if they subjectively have a sense of identity how can you really prove any of it? Idk it's a mess
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yeah its a weird argument i wont lie
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How can you prove alters are 'really seperate?' If anything the clinical perspective is that they aren't
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a doctor does not get to control my life or my truth... im not anti psych but i do believe in people having control of their identity in some forms
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11:33 AM
just a while ago being homosexual was considered an illness
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Nono, ofc, but if you're arguing from the perspective that it's only real if it's trauma based that's illogical
11:34 AM
Sorry i am very much in the camp of just believing what people's experiences are haha
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/10/2023 11:34 AM
I created for two reasons:
  • Escapisim via wonderlanding
  • Feeling I need to fix myself I didn't hatch the idea "my headmate can do this for me!". I really don't like the idea of my headmates dealing with my problems, but more recently they would pressure me to let them step in because I struggle to do stuff on my own. I didn't want to cope this way, but I ultimately do
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anise
Sorry i am very much in the camp of just believing what people's experiences are haha
ik dont worry not assuming anything
11:35 AM
im trying to state just why its weird when people say only trauma based stuff is acceptable
11:35 AM
i been around some and many of them are.. uncomfortably into glorifying medical documentation and whatnot
11:36 AM
i read the haunted self too. its not that special
11:36 AM
i can kindof appreciate it in the context of us not having anything prior to it, but yeah
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A long kiss goodnight 8/10/2023 11:36 AM
Cherrypickers -_-
11:37 AM
Hating doctors unless they support your argument
11:37 AM
It's frustrating
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they will defend those people with their life who arent even alive like im sorry but i dont think pierre janet cares if i believe him or not anymore 😅
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A long kiss goodnight
Hating doctors unless they support your argument
Right? lmao
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A long kiss goodnight
Hating doctors unless they support your argument
ITS SO WEIRD bc they take what they say as law
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Structural dissociation is literal gospel, and believe DOCTORS ALWAYS
11:38 AM
No! DID is not controversial, I do not see it
11:39 AM
I feel bad because a lot of these people are really suffering and whatnot I just never felt comfortable being in these spaces and nodding along
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A long kiss goodnight 8/10/2023 11:40 AM
When you're traumatized to the point you feel you can't trust anyone, it's not exactly going to make you a logically sound debater
11:41 AM
Sysmeds that I come across tend to be very fragile people
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i could also go on about how modern discourse on social media is incredibly emotionally charged
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A long kiss goodnight
Sysmeds that I come across tend to be very fragile people
yeah me too
11:41 AM
many people dont know how to see their feelings and then see the facts..
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A long kiss goodnight
When you're traumatized to the point you feel you can't trust anyone, it's not exactly going to make you a logically sound debater
Yeah, definitely
11:42 AM
Although I think this is a larger problem with some mental health spaces, offering a solution that's actually somewhat predatory
11:43 AM
Although that's miles off topic so ye
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A long kiss goodnight 8/10/2023 11:44 AM
The couple times we joined autism spaces it gave us weird vibes. But I don’t know how it compares to plural spaces
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Tbh that's probably an effect of people who learn to deal with issues in a more sustainable way simply move on
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A long kiss goodnight 8/10/2023 11:45 AM
Dream (my headmate) needs to sleep, but I enjoyed the chat!
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It's the classic trans space thingy
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A long kiss goodnight
Dream (my headmate) needs to sleep, but I enjoyed the chat!
Night! Was lovely talking
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A long kiss goodnight 8/10/2023 11:45 AM
You as well!
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anise
Although I think this is a larger problem with some mental health spaces, offering a solution that's actually somewhat predatory
eck yeah
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A long kiss goodnight
Dream (my headmate) needs to sleep, but I enjoyed the chat!
cya later
11:48 AM
so jade what brings you here
11:49 AM
interested in making a tulpa or just wanted to talk about them in a more open space? or maybe you have one idk
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I joined this space because someone I knew for a while had a tulpa and I was interested in the intersection between tulpas and hypnosis, but that was months ago
11:51 AM
I find the idea really fascinating, I considered and even started making one for a bit but decided it wasn't for me
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...and I'm enough of a psych nerd to want to keep talking about this stuff haha
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oh gotcha
11:52 AM
tbh i think it has to do with building a narrative and thats probably why alot of people get stuck
11:52 AM
idk how to put it into words tho
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also again im probably a terrible person to debate about it bc i do not get stuck like that vshdvshdv
11:54 AM
i used too though
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tbh i think it has to do with building a narrative and thats probably why alot of people get stuck
I mean I got to a point where I was like.. if I am going to get any results im going to need to believe in this fully, which felt counterproductive to my life so I stopped
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yeah i get it some people have a hard time with that part
11:54 AM
i think taking it as truth is also somthing that causes people to struggle. it can cause many other types of systems to struggle too ive observed it
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 11:55 AM
it opens lots of doors on how you can view your own identity for sure
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Yeah, it's definitely a complicated process
11:56 AM
I think it's so cool
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me too heh
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 11:57 AM
i dont think its as magical as its made out to be, but that might be because im used to it now
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i think i get it
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
i dont think its as magical as its made out to be, but that might be because im used to it now
I think that's probably the case tbh
11:59 AM
Even stuff like 'ooh what does switching feel like' is fascinating to me and it's probably pretty mundane to anyone used to it
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:00 PM
i think tulpamancy is twisting regular experiences into something new and i dont mean it in a negative way, in singlet terms i'd describe switching as turning into another person suddenly, like your mood and thought patterns change
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i find it really easy and regular in most cases 😅 also happens alot without me knowing sometimes
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:01 PM
and body language too
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
i think tulpamancy is twisting regular experiences into something new and i dont mean it in a negative way, in singlet terms i'd describe switching as turning into another person suddenly, like your mood and thought patterns change
So like it's kinda fake but also not?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:01 PM
yesn't
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lol
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i mean that is the description to trick yourself into it
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:02 PM
if you really think about who you are, you are essentially just the way you think, the history/story of yourself and how you react to things
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if you can change all of those and think that it's someone else, thats tulpamancy
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and it starts coming so naturally and out of nowhere it feels like you're not alone
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That's so wild haha
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good description
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:03 PM
thats why i think it opens lots of interesting questions like who you really are, if your thoughts just come out of nowhere
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Idk why this is so crazy, I've known about tulpas for ages now but wow it really is wild
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
thats why i think it opens lots of interesting questions like who you really are, if your thoughts just come out of nowhere
Yeah!
12:04 PM
I mean there's already all the stuff about unconscious processes, I think there's even been studies where people's actions show up in the brain before the intention
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:05 PM
i think the only true self there is is the consciousness and your perception of things happening, everything else is not ""you""
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i find it kindof bizzare that i can perceive having so much control or being able to choose these things but it really does feel that way
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:05 PM
but thats only how i see it
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
i think the only true self there is is the consciousness and your perception of things happening, everything else is not ""you""
So like your identity is a narrative? kinda?
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i find it kindof bizzare that i can perceive having so much control or being able to choose these things but it really does feel that way
How does it feel to you?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/10/2023 12:05 PM
exactly
12:06 PM
its like a tv show you're stuck watching lol
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I kinda get that, although I guess there's limits where it runs up against deeply rooted stuff like extraversion and like, autism or w/e
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that i can just choose who to be and choose what to do and what traits i have even if i am very dissociated i can just rebuild myself..
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But even within that range of freedom it's crazy flexible
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that i can just choose who to be and choose what to do and what traits i have even if i am very dissociated i can just rebuild myself..
Wow
12:07 PM
That is crazy
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Sorry I'm just repeating myself but i really mean it lmfao
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its ok xD
12:08 PM
although its true i dissociate less and less now maybe this is my perception of the problem being less present
12:08 PM
but i never resented not having a sense of self or not having a stable one
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That's so interesting
12:09 PM
So like the compartmentalisation of tulpas helps w/ that?
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